Bean probe sensitivity to airflow

The bean probe does not only measure the temperature of the beans. It is affected by the metal carcass where it is fixed – and by the air passing by.

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The bean probe is quicker affected by the airflow than the beans. Metal absorb heat quicker than the cellulose beans. Think of sitting on a bench in the park on a cold day; the difference of a wood bench and a metal bench. Coffee beans are more like wood than metal.

Here I have tested the bean probes sensitivity to airflow.

This test is on my Bullet R1 roaster (a test roast with old beans, not meant to taste good). The bean probe is a NTC precision type.

Look at the graph after 8 minutes:

Peru test ny probe sept2017

In the last 4 minutes of the roast I jumped between a high airflow; F7 and a low; F2 (and once F1). Each time approximatly 30 seconds stretch. I chose F7 because already at F5 the airflow starts to cool rather than increase heat transfer. That is with 400 grams batches – at larger batches it takes higher fansetting.

High airflow made the ROR go negative within 10 seconds.
Low airflow made it go positive within 10 seconds.

During this shifting airflow the Bean temperature (BT) did anyway rise from 187 to 191°C, measured at low airflow. Probably due to heat transfer from the drum, where the heat setting was constant at P3 during these 4 minutes.

Data excelark

Clearly the bean probe is not only affected by the actual bean temperature – but also of the airflow. As we long expected. And as Rob Hoos also wrote in his Roast Magazine article this month (the sep/oct 2017 issue). He also talks about it in this video

Read more about the Bean Temperature under Roasting Basics.

Note: The first 8 minutes of the roast was because I had just changed the bean probe. At first the test was only to see the difference to the old one. But during the roast I got the idea to test the airflow impact on the BT reading.

Different batch sizes

Another indication that airflow is affecting the BT probe … is that the reading at First Crack start depends on batch size.

In general it is established that First Crack (FC) starts around 200ÂșC. But it is very common that the bean probe on a roaster gives a lower reading. For all types of roasters.

On the Bullet R1 I have seen a range from around 170ÂșC up to 196ÂșC for FC start. This is affected by two things: if it’s an old or new probe … and on batch size.

The lower temperature happens when only roasting 400 grams. The Bullet R1 has a capacity of 1 kilo. Below you can see 2 batches Ryan Garnes did with the same bean; 700 grams and 1,000 grams.

700 grams:

700g_Ryan Garnes

1000 gram:

1000g_Ryan Garnes

First crack comes higher at 1 kilo:
At 700 gram First Crack sets in at 191ÂșC.
At 1,000 grams it sets in at 196ÂșC.

In both cases airflow was around F4. The air moves from the back of the drum – through the beans – and affects the bean probe placed on the front (read about Bean probe sensitivity to airflow). When the air travels through very hot beans it gets heated up before hitting the bean probe. More hot beans will heat up the air more. Therefor higher BT reading at FC.

At yellowing point the 700 grams batch lies higher:
At 700 gram at 149ÂșC.
At 1,000 grams at 141ÂșC.

Here the beans are not as hot than at First Crack. So the beans rather cool down the air than heat it.

Taking the trier out

If you got a trier on your roaster … taking it out also effects the airflow. See


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